Turkshead tying program

[bergjes]

Hi,

can somebody help me explain the following?

I'm trying to figure out how to use gridmaker for a gaucho weave.

I found out that I can use the following coding to make a perfect grid:  \\//

But is it possible to use gridmaker to make a gaucho weave with two colors?
(For instance to make a /\/\/\ pattern)

I have a book of David Morgan with lots of information how to tie a gaucho knot.
One of his gaucho knots is based on a 4B 5P turks head.
Then he "weaves" with a loose strand to make the gaucho knot, he calls it the 8B 10P gaucho knot?
Is this correct? Because this knot I cannot make with the grid maker.
Can somebody explain this to me?

Thanks,
Erik

[Knot Head]

You can make a gaucho weave with the grid maker. But, you will only be able to do that gaucho with one color, or one single string. The grid maker does not support 2 string versions of interweaves yet. I know that the creators of the grid maker were expressing to me that they had 2 string version in the works. No release date set as of yet.

My best advice is if you wish to pursue the gaucho interweave like you are now, with 2 color strings, then make the base turks head of 5p 4b and then do the interweave as shown in your book. You could also make the single string version on the grid maker and keep the strings far enough apart to see how the knot is built.

For all intensive purposes you could always make the single string version with the grid maker and just tie the turks head part in one color and then tie the interweave. Start the interweave at the same end your standing end is located at and go from there following the grid pattern.

Brian...

[FreshRepublic]

Anyone think they could figure the code out for this puppy?http://knottool.com/pics/image020.jpg

[Knot Head]

From 1       . . . . . . . . . .       to 2
From 2       . . . . . . . . . .       to 3
From 3       . . . . . . . . . .       to 4
From 4       O . . . . . . . . .       to 5
From 5       O . . . . . . . . .       to 6
From 6       U O . . . . . . . .       to 7
From 7       O O . . . . . . . .       to 8
From 8       U U U . . . . . . .       to 9
From 9       U U O . . . . . . .      to 10
From 10      O U U U . . . . . .      to 11
From 11      O U U U . . . . . .      to 12
From 12      O O O U U . . . . .      to 13
From 13      O O O U U . . . . .      to 14
From 14      U U O O O U . . . .      to 15
From 15      U O O O O U . . . .      to 16
From 16      U O U U O O O . . .      to 17
From 17      U U U O O O O . . .      to 18
From 18      U U U O U U O O . .      to 19
From 19      O O U U U O O O . .      to 20
From 20      O U U U U O U U O .      to 21
From 21      O O O O U U U O O .      to 22
From 22      O O O U U U U O U U      to 23
From 23      U U O O O O U U U O      to 24
From 24      U U O O O U U U U O       to 1

[FreshRepublic]

Omg thank you so much! How bout this?http://knottool.com/pics/image030.jpg also is it the same as the over six under six lanyard knot? If not does anyone know how to tie that? I'm dying to learn these. Thanks!

[FreshRepublic]

Also, just realized you have 24 pins listed. I'm confused. How many do I need on top and on bottom? I'm guessing 12? Sorry confusing instructions.

[Knot Head]

12 on top 12 on bottom.

[Knot Head]

That is a 4 pass Gaucho Knot.

Parts: 9 Bights: 10
Size (inches): 3.5444 inches (1.1282 inch diameter) x 1.7222 inches
Size (cm): 9.0029 cm (2.8657 cm diameter) x 4.3744 cm
Strands: 1
Crossings: 80
Facets: 20
Coding Options: Row Coding - OOOOUUUU

From 1       . . . . . . . .       to 2
From 2       . . . . . . . .       to 3
From 3       . . . . . . . .       to 4
From 4       O . . . . . . .       to 5
From 5       O . . . . . . .       to 6
From 6       O O . . . . . .       to 7
From 7       O O . . . . . .       to 8
From 8       O O O . . . . .       to 9
From 9       O O O . . . . .      to 10
From 10      O O O O . . . .      to 11
From 11      O O O O . . . .      to 12
From 12      O O O O U . . .      to 13
From 13      O O O O U . . .      to 14
From 14      O O O O U U . .      to 15
From 15      O O O O U U . .      to 16
From 16      O O O O U U U .      to 17
From 17      O O O O U U U .      to 18
From 18      O O O O U U U U      to 19
From 19      O O O O U U U U      to 20
From 20      O O O O U U U U       to 1

[FreshRepublic]

Thank you a billion. As for the 12 bight knot. How to arrange? Just don't wanna spend too much time poking holes in my paper towel roll thereby damaging how well it holds my thumb tacks.

[FreshRepublic]

Also the way your listing it confuses me. I usually have say 10 pins on top and botbottom each numbered one through ten. So when you say from 1 to 20 I really don't understand how to set them up.

[Knot Head]

From pin 1 to Pin 2
From pin 2 to Pin 3
and so on.

[FreshRepublic]

OK but how to arrange them? Doesn't make any sense. Usually I got from bottom pin one to top pin 2 to bottom pin whatever. There's set spots for them. I have no idea. I tried alternating so 1 was on bottom then 2 on top but sskipping a pin. Nothing iveI've tried makes any sense. Got a pic maybe? I'm ususing a cylindrical mandrel not turks head tool.

[FreshRepublic]

Here's a pic of my mandrel.http://postimg.org/image/yfpz3743z/

[FreshRepublic]

Sigh. Why waste the time to post tedious step by step instructions, twice but not explain your method of using pins. The normal method me and everyone else I know of is the same method gridmaker uses. 1-20 makes no sense to me. If its a ten bight knot id have 1-10 on top and 1-10 on bottom and the numbers would mirror each other.

[Wed]

I don't use any of your methods. But don't you think having a "1" in two places, creates a conflict?

This is how I'd interpret the instructions:
Top row
1 3 5 7 9 11 13 15 17 19
Bottom row
14 16 18 20 2 4 6 8 10 12