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Knicknack

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loop knot I.D.?
« on: April 17, 2011, 08:24:57 PM »
I came up with this loop knot a few years ago (after a bowline mishap) and it has become one of my favorite knots.  It's not hard to adjust the loop size, it holds well through numerous load/unload cycles, and alternating uneven loads--except perhaps on the slickest of ropes, and it always unties very easily without a remaining knot to clean up in the standing part.  Tying it was a bit clumsy at first, but I devised the attached method which I've found to be quick and easy to remember. (Alas, I don't have a method which works if the standing part is already under tension).

But I don't know what this knot is called.  I've looked through various books but haven't found it yet.  (I've just been calling it a Proteus knot, because of the shape-shifting way I tie it.)  If anyone knows what this knot is, it would be nice to have the standard name for it.  Thanks.

Nick (ngear@gvtc.com)

dfred

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Re: loop knot I.D.?
« Reply #1 on: April 17, 2011, 09:23:19 PM »
I believe it was covered in another thread.  There are actually several interesting loop knots based on what is has been called a samisen (or shamisen) structure.

Yes, here it is...

  http://igkt.net/sm/index.php?topic=2197.0

At the bottom of that thread I posted an image of one of those other related loop knots.  There are two or three other compact and stable loops that can be created by passing the working end in different ways through the "marlinspike flop".

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« Last Edit: April 17, 2011, 09:58:44 PM by dfred »

Knicknack

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Re: loop knot I.D.?
« Reply #2 on: April 17, 2011, 10:55:55 PM »
Thanks dfred.  The knot that knotquestion was trying to find the name for is definitely the same (at least, the last picture is) but I wasn't clear whether he ever got an answer.  The knot you posted at the bottom runs the collar the other way around the standing part.  It is slightly easier to modify the loop length, but the self-crossing collar is more secure, and the knot draws up more consistently.  It does look like it could be in the general category of twist-loop bowlines, but I was hoping to find something a bit more specific.

What I don't understand is why this knot is so obscure.  I've run across plenty of better-known loop knots which don't seem to perform nearly as well.  Of course, if it doesn't have a name, that could be part of the problem.

 

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