The language of what we do

[Wed]

In the initial illustration both images were the same except for the green highlighting, right?  In the following illustration a crossing strand was above a locked intersection (green) and then in the next image the crossing strand was above an open intersection (red).

Suspecting that I'm still missing the point.

The first one ought to be removed, but it would upset the flow of conversation of the thread. However, the two discrete images show the same as the initial image. The difference being that the "wave" comes from the other way in both of the red cases, the wave lays false in the ... "word of choice". In other words, it would fall through.

For that matter, are my sheet bends loaded the wrong way around?

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This is what a sheet bend looks like:

[Wed]

Thanks., I suppose what I drew is better suited for netting.

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It's the same for netting; it needs a locking mechanism. Your images don't have it, although they can be used for netting. However, the usual netting knot is the same form as the sheet bend.
(English is not my language, and I don't have words for all the parts of the knot, but study it, and you will see.)

[Wed]

Your language and mine are close though. I'm a ... Sk?ning. The forum seems to be lacking UTF-8 compatibility. Scanian then.

But I see how the images are flawed. The attached carricks are without added information. Ashley seems to have given a slew of variants. Each more dangerous than the others. I believe those would probably contain every case imaginable ...

Edit: previous images are fixed. Even though they are merely showing cases of functions, it feels better using a valid knot for the task. A  full set is available.

[Wed]

The whole set so far. Part one

[Wed]

Part two. The sheetbend doesn't contain the roundturn that the bowline does of course.

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The illustrations do help in identifying different parts of the pattern of the knot. Now, if we could also have a further set of terms to identify the deformations that take place when dressing the knot, because these "sheet bends" are indeed correct tying patterns, but the dressed knot is somewhat different. This will be even more evident if we compare it to the bowline, which has a similar pattern but a different deformation under load.

[Wed]

Quite so. Valid points. A bit harder to represent though.

[DerekSmith]

Part two. The sheetbend doesn't contain the roundturn that the bowline does of course.

What 'roundturn'?  Do you mean the loop?

Derek

[Wed]

What 'roundturn'?  Do you mean the loop?

Likely, probably. Or what it will be called in the new terms.

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As many of us now have seen, a new term has been coined to the deformation of the HH that strangles the two parts of the end forming the collar of the bowline, it becomes a "TurNip", which Dan Lehman I think invented, from the same form in the Gleipnir binding knot. In the sheet bend however, there is no load on the free end, so the same turn will not be formed.

[SS369]

Isn't it so that the same collar/coil will form in the Sheet Bend if it is loaded? In my hands there is a dressed and loaded Sheet Bend that exhibits the same look as in the Bowline if you cover the extraneous parts.
Am I missing something here? Quite possible.

[Wed]

What it has been, is or will be called, is in a haze to me. But I have drawn most of the cases I can imagine. If the rest of you can stick a name to the cases, I'll be happy. If there are other cases, I'll happily draw them.

Should they be presented in some sort of presentation, I can render them in any resolution required (it's scalable vector graphics after all). If anyone want to toy with the source files, just let me know.

[squarerigger]

Wed, Scott, Derek, Ink and all,

Many, many thanks for your continuing progress.  In my original post, just so that I do not get too far off track here, I suggest, nay I state, that I am looking to describe line actions.  This was done in hopes of being able to describe the formation of a structure that is used when a line is put into service.  The TurNip (term invented by DL afaik) is an example of a line path which can certainly be described as a line action also.  It nips the line(s).  Wed, your drawings are excellent and a wonderful aid to reducing the number of many words of description to a precious few.

There seems to me to be a sector missing in my OP and that is the action of fairing a structure - getting it to work more completely - but without getting into distortions that occur by pulling on the wrong part or by overloading the structure, although that will obviously need to be considered.  That (pulling on the wrong part) seems to me to be a whole separate and much more complex situation.  Here is my ancillary question to the OP - should we be describing a fairing action also?

I think that Wed's pictures do credit to him and are an excellent compilation with which we can work right now before taking the next bite of the elephant.

SR