are we saying the Des Pawson method doesn't produce a jam resistant knot?
YMMV with loading & material, but the versionS that Des shows
can jam. Note that you might WANT to jam a bend, in various
scenarios; in such a case, you'd want to set it into a jammed state
yourself, and not expect it to arise (presumably, i.e., you'd want
it jammed secure from the beginning). Conceivably, in some
materials, the tails-abutting dressing will be drawn into the
non-jamming one (that is how the S.Parts will draw on tails,
but they might not succeed in shifting them).
To be clear, I own the Handbook Of Knots, Expanded Edition by Pawson.
Pawson promotes the two P's method, which BTW,
produces an identical looking knot as the pretzel method employed by Dan Lehman.
Not so : he shows TWO dressings --in blue & white, copied above,
and in the right-margin larger image, in orange & red. In the first,
note that the blue tail's on the blue S.Part's side of the knot; but
the red/orange tails reach towards opp. S.Parts --but on the wrong
side of each other. David's larger image above puts it clearly.
(AND, note that he shows a mis-tied
SmitHunter's bend on the facing
page, in the red-&-blue cords, finished knot along the left margin !
And that might seem finicky except if you're tying it in a sane manner
and not the CLDay-invented too-clever-by-half manner of 2-Ps (that
p.s me off!) and so are focused on one *spot* for working the end
of the 2nd rope in & back out, which then makes it all easy. And
if you have an inkling of understanding about WHY you're tying
what you're tying, along with the How. (But you can go through
your entire life and not know --and write advice about knots, too!)
I'm just somewhat confused on the bend, is it a good bend to use for the average person or is it to tricky to set right?
The average person wouldn't even be asking the question,
and on average I think would know few knots. Unaverage
Inkanyezi remarks that end-2-end knots don't figure prominently
in his above-average rope use; rockclimbing will join ends for
making slings (though one can by sewn tape slings), and for
joining lines to rappel (though one can climb with a twin line
and use that). Many around-the-house tasks with tiny stuff
needs only the
square knot. Once, I joined a thickish rope
someone was connecting for a quick snow-stuck-tow, and
wanted a decent bend --think I used
#1408, but
#1452 too
would do, also
carrick, RZ, and various others.
But knowing the JAMMING ability of
#1452 might be just
the ticket for it to come to the fore --a Swiss-army bend!
(But I might be seeing too much in this --that the jamming
under light loads, so still able to be untied, is not so secure
a knot as needed --takes some careful dressing & setting.)
It's amazing how many different ways there are for tying just one knot
And it's not just
tying, but dressing/setting --different
results, not merely different ways to the same result.
Beyond which can come different behaviors to a geometry
per knotted material.
--dl*
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ps: I'm reminded that I've not photo'd & shown the 3rd dressing
for
Ashley's #1452 --one that takes some working. And maybe
I should show a more from-the-start jamming version --what might
be used for some tasks.
