Author Topic: Yet, another midline eyeknot  (Read 31543 times)

Kost_Greg

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Re: Yet, another midline eyeknot
« Reply #90 on: February 04, 2024, 06:54:36 PM »
Hi Ychan, it's good that you have included the interlinked configuration as well, providing a compehensive picture of these structures.

The "Beta", butterfly-ish variation, although it looks more compact, in Mobius, crossed-line style, i believe it blocks the access to the figure-9 collar, therefore, i also agree with your preference to the other one.

Afterall, what's the point of inducing additional complexity to 1053, which would probably render the untying situation, more challenging than the parent knot?

On the contrary, at the february structure, the 9-collar is completely accessible, with no direct linkage to SParts, and moreover, it operates as a blocking component against the distancing developed between the two non-interlinked overhands of false butterfly, holding them close to one other.

To see what i mean, try to form the figure nine, this time from the right side of the knot, incorporating an S-half hitch.

You will rather uncover a knot, not so stable, as the one with the Z-half hitch, that you have very smartly intergrated  from the left side of the original knot.

One other interesting aspect is, that if the double splayed loop, bowline version is obtained from the original, inline, source knot, this figure-9 form, is transformed to Alpineer's nipping structure.
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Kost_Greg

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Re: Yet, another midline eyeknot
« Reply #91 on: February 26, 2024, 05:17:01 PM »
Moving to more conventional, hybrid, butterfly forms that synthesize interlinked figure eights and overhands, i have attached the precedent state of this form in first image, just before the reeving of the central bight through both interlinked loops.

Note 1: The right Z loop is twisted, and gets the crossing knot state, before the reeving, for the figure eight to be materialized.

Note 2: If the left S loop is twisted, one might expect a geometrically different result.

As i have explained in previous replies, the hybrid form, (which comes from the previous stage), is subjected to some core modifications, whereon the figure eight is flipped and the eye legs swap positions as illustated in second image.

Finally, the overhand, eye leg continuation, is extended, forming a bight, which in sequence is being folded under the nub, with the finishing reeving of the eye down through this bight.(third image, loose form).

In my view, despite the complexity, this is another interesting mode to interlace figure eight with overhand components, in butterfly-ish style to produce stable, yet jam-safe, midline knot structures.

Looking for a simple tying method that leads directly to third knot, bypassing the intervening stages.
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