variation on round turn and two half hitches?

[Thegrovsterthang]

I understand when tying a round turn and two half hitches, you tie the two half hitches onto the standing line, right? Well what if you tie the hitches onto what you're anchoring the knot onto? Is that still the same knot? Is there a different name for that knot?

[SS369]

I understand when tying a round turn and two half hitches, you tie the two half hitches onto the standing line, right? Well what if you tie the hitches onto what you're anchoring the knot onto? Is that still the same knot? Is there a different name for that knot?

Hello Thegrovsterthang,

It will still be a round turn and two half hitches, conceptually, but it can have a few different orientations of the parts and hence have a few different names.
Not a very capable hitch for right angle pulls, the round turn will most likely vanish, but could work for lengthwise (parallel to the object).

Did you have a particular construction in mind?

SS

[Dan_Lehman]

I understand when tying a round turn and two half hitches, you tie the two half hitches onto the standing line, right? Well what if you tie the hitches onto what you're anchoring the knot onto? Is that still the same knot? Is there a different name for that knot?

I think that what you're asking is answered simply:
No, it's a clove hitch (sans any turns, here).

Which shows why I prefer to see the venerable old
structure as a compound structure which includes
a knot --viz., the clove hitch-- tied to its SPart,
and is not itself a *knot* but a noose.


--dl*
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[knot4u]

I understand when tying a round turn and two half hitches, you tie the two half hitches onto the standing line, right? Well what if you tie the hitches onto what you're anchoring the knot onto? Is that still the same knot? Is there a different name for that knot?

That sounds like a Rolling Hitch.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rolling_hitch