Zeppelin LOOP..........revisited

[Festy]

Dear friends, peace be with you all.

I've just been here at the keyboard and practising tying the Zeppelin LOOP, and everything about it to my untrained eye looks so damn right. Its security, its resistance to jamming, its visual checkability.

It is slightly more difficult to tie maybe than the others mentioned, but into everyone's life a little rain must fall. 

(I use the clover method for tying it)

Is there a case for using it in almost all situations instead of the many end loop variants, the Bowline, the Double Dragon, the Alpine Butterfly etcetera?

Thanks guys,
F

[roo]

Is there a case for using it in almost all situations instead of the many end loop variants, the Bowline, the Double Dragon, the Alpine Butterfly etcetera?

The Zeppelin Loop doesn't have a real way of being tied on the bight, so it's not going to replace the likes of a Butterfly Loop (Lineman's Loop) or Span Loop. 

I'm not sure I know what the "clover" method is.  Do you have instructions for this somewhere? 

[Festy]

Is there a case for using it in almost all situations instead of the many end loop variants, the Bowline, the Double Dragon, the Alpine Butterfly etcetera?

The Zeppelin Loop doesn't have a real way of being tied on the bight, so it's not going to replace the likes of a Butterfly Loop (Lineman's Loop) or Span Loop. 

I'm not sure I know what the "clover" method is.  Do you have instructions for this somewhere?

It is for use as an end loop, Roo.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8wSVdUQhBt8

[NotSure]

It's a decent end loop knot. There are slightly better ones out there for certain things, but it's tough to beat it's visual check-ability, I'll give you that.

About the only problem I could fore-see is if the rope is already looped around an awkward'ish type of object and somebody says, "Quick! Tie this off!" (You know, having to pre-knot the standing part could present a problem there...) But that'll probably never happen. Sometimes I just like to stir the pot a little... 

Also, for the most part, bulkiness is a non-issue for loop knots. So I say go for it.

Cheers.

[zoranz]

This scheme is nothing new, but for beginners can be useful...

Regards, ZZ