First off, let me apologize for the amount of pictures. I was chided abit in a previous thread for posting too many large pics, so I have downsized them and put a warning in the subject.
So here's how to make what I have...
Start it like a zeppelin bend except interlock it and leave both ends on top. also make sure the end on the right comes from underneath.
Pull the end on the right up through the middle and wrap it around the end coming from the left side.
Do the same for the other side. Kinda looks like a star of david if you squint just right...
Pull it tight and you have a nice big (nearly) symmetrical ball of a bend.
and...
So, thats the main knot. It doesn't seem to jam. You can pull the end loops down and if those are difficult you can always pull the tails and shift it (shift #1) into what looks like a decorative...something, which also looks stable and is easier to pull apart. Now if you take the main knot (unshifted) and just take the tail ends out (shift #2), you get this:
which can be tied independantly like this:
I'm still new at this, but to me that looks like some sort of interlocked griefknot/whatnot (
http://igkt.net/sm/index.php?topic=525.0 -- WARNING, MORE PICS!) in it's stable condition. This one, however, doesn't seem to have an unstable condition. But if you pull on the ends, you get yet another knot (shift #3) that looks similar to a square knot (actual square, not reef) that also looks stable:
Again, I apologize for the number of pics. I just find this all so fascinating
So, are these related knots? Did I cheat by pulling the tails out to create a totally separate knot? What do I have here?