terminology... is the gaucho knot a diamond knot?

[alana]

is the gaucho knot a diamond knot?
is a diamond knot necessarily a stopper knot?
and is a footrope knot a kind of stopper knot?
so many questions!
long ago i learnt a few practical knots and hitches,
now interested in decorative stuff... and classification
thank you, anyone
 : )  al

[Sweeney]

Welcome to the forum Alana. I'll try and answer your questions:

is the gaucho knot a diamond knot?

No, the gaucho knot is a type of turk's head knot - usually an over 2- under 2 pattern. The simplest form - and the one to start with - is the Spanish ring knot which you can find on YouTube.

is a diamond knot necessarily a stopper knot?

No. A diamond knot is a decorative knot which may be used as a stopper but not necessarily. A Lanyard knot is sometimes called a 2 strand diamond knot.

and is a footrope knot a kind of stopper knot?

Not really. As its name suggests a footrope knot provided a hand or foothold on a rope on a ship. But like so many knots the footrope knot can be a stopper = this is descriptive of its use not a classification per se. Even the humble overhand knot is frequently used as a stopper.

Sweeney

[alana]

Sweeney thank you so much! and thanks for the kind welcome 
this is clearer now, i just learnt the gaucho knot, so pretty, and then had many questions...
and so - it seems diamond knot is an over1-under1 pattern.
looked online really hard to find out more descriptions but couldn't find that anywhere, so have had to ask here, probably should've done that first!

edit: what i thought was the gaucho knot when i was asking about it, was actually 'gaucho knot button'

[alana]

new chit chat topic but i didn't want to start a new thread

knottiversary

it seems i joined the forum 7 years ago!, asking questions about the ubiquitous two-strand 'diamond knot'.

i was welcomed by members, including Sweeney,
and other patient knot people helping me, so kind. thank you!

is it old-timey reminiscence hour?

my Dad had Geoffrey Budworth's The Knot Book since i can remember and showed me and any captive audience some string tricks.
(he also did card tricks and things like photography and other things, still to this day)

fast forward to a job in my 20s in a backstage setting, and a guy there was showing a handful of kids how to tie some practical knot.

at some other stage i saw a segment at the end of local news about a mariner type guy and he had a knot board. ropey stuff. i thought it was a bit extreme, but the board and knots displayed were visually striking.

also in that decade the marquee crew used truckers hitches to tie the poles to the pegs (where else), and i gradually learnt that, i was a bit slow.
in another setting as i milled about, the guys' punching bag rope was fraying;
i had a go at backsplicing, it seems to have worked.

i worked with/ for an older guy who had been in u.s navy,
he gave me an unsolicited demo of the sheepshank/ loops,
i didn't have interest in it at the time but i remembered what he said, 
which was valuable.

i did motorcycling and - horreur - would use (2) ratchet straps when transporting it,
i thought they were great.
i used ocky straps for baggage.
then, when selling a bike, the buyer tied it down on his trailer with a loop and other hitch, on each cord - was it 4mm cord?, it was a thin line - i saw how well it worked, 
it was the beginning of the end of ratchet straps for me.

with the job with my u.s navyman friend, i used ratchet strap, cargo net, and began using rope more.

fast forward, massive illness, internet, i read The Knot Book more thoroughly,
saw the diamond knot (3Lx4B) in 1 strand and 2 strand, 
went on a knot bender,
asked questions on the forum,
got the answers (with thanks),
fast forward, intrigued by decorative knots,
found my local cord manufacturer,
still asking questions,
cord habit,
tying habit,
it's my indoor sport and physio, 
plus practical
...
so, thanks, friendly folk

[KnotMe]

Happy knottiversary, Alana!  🎉👏🏽🥳

[alana]

Happy knottiversary, Alana!  🎉👏🏽🥳

😃 thanks, KnotMeee