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alanleeknots

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Knots transformation
« on: January 13, 2019, 08:11:06 AM »
Hi All,
        Xarax come up with good "Ampersand bowline-Scott's TIB transformation", and ask me to make a video, no problem.
        well, interesting I found there is a simple lock bowline relate to these two bowlines an I can fit it in between too.
         And make it even more interesting.   謝謝 alanleeknots
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mWx8NiTfwrI
 
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Re: One step process knots transformation
« Reply #1 on: January 13, 2019, 07:18:33 PM »
Nice to see the relationship between two fine eye knots. Cousins I'd say.
Have you tested the in between one?
And a Thank You to you and Xarax.

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alanleeknots

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Re: Knots transformation
« Reply #2 on: January 23, 2019, 08:52:02 AM »
Hi Scott,
             Thanks very much for your reply, I never test this simple lock bowline yet, I have a lot to do with my own knots,
              and I have so little time, may test it in the future.
               Just did another knots transformation video, hope you like it.   謝謝 alanleeknots
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VwwYNAORZdU&t=59s

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Re: Knots transformation
« Reply #3 on: January 23, 2019, 01:56:55 PM »
It would not be an exaggeration to say that I was mesmerised by your videos and your skill.  To see you transform one component into another, and another, without ever untying the 'tangle' was simply wonderful - Thank You...

I wonder, have you 'simply' memorised the moves? or do you actually 'see' the relationship between one component form and its  transformed form?

Knot 'Magic' at its very best, demonstrating a vast understanding of transformation..

Respect.

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Re: Knots transformation
« Reply #4 on: February 03, 2019, 09:23:00 PM »
Hi Derek,
           
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I wonder, have you 'simply' memorised the moves? or do you actually 'see' the relationship between one component form and its  transformed form?
            Not quite remember all the move. have to stop and thinks. Usually, after I found a way to transform the knot form one
            to another, I have to spend time to fine tune the individual move, till I satisfy. and then do the rest of it. and then practice
            many rounds of whole series' move, till I got my best form, and right away set up my camera and do the video.
            Even after a few days, if you want me to do the same video again, still need to practice many times, this time is easier,
            I have the video to follow and practice.
            If without the video to follow, I have to spend more time practising the whole series' move, and the untangling move
            may differ from the previous video too.

            I do see some of them, not all. Usually from 3 step move modify to 2 step move, and 2 step move modifies to 1 step move,
            seldom happen form 3 step move to 1 step move.
           
           I have two more new videos please see alanleeknots at youtube.   謝謝 alanleeknots

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Re: Knots transformation
« Reply #5 on: February 06, 2019, 10:33:01 PM »
Hi Derek,
           
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I wonder, have you 'simply' memorised the moves? ...
            Not quite remember all the move.
For my few ventures in this sort of knots fiddling,
I just keep going one way or another, musing
"What if ...?!" and alas w/o someone videoing
me making various moves, I'll have no idea
what ones were good or dead ends!

E.g., I have many times transformed the "figure 9"
structure from its well-known (by climbers) "1 more
than 8" form --what garnered its name-- into either
of the symmetric forms (one of which is Ashley's #525,
btw); yet I STILL don't really know the moves, even
so simple & few.  (Well, I can pretty well now get from
the asymmetric form to one of the symmetric ones,
viewing the former as a dancer w/joined arms
encircling a leg raised above head  : bring the leg
& arms down, equalize straight_leg_&_wrapped_leg
to equally_trwisting_legs.)

I often found making equalities/derivations in math
like this : one has these rules for change, but had to
figure out how to do so in a productive order to get
from one equation to some other.


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Re: Knots transformation
« Reply #6 on: November 03, 2020, 12:49:53 PM »
Fantastic, excellent transformational knotting structure flow, which i find no hard time to follow, and trully what a lovely knotting exercise for the initiated to browse through decent TIb components.

I would recognise the in-between knot,(the one you refer to as simple lock bowline), as john Smith's/Dan lehman bowline and i am simply quoting the author Mr. Mark Gommers (agent_smith) from his bowline analysis paper(page 57).

"This structure was published in `knotting Matters`, issue#19, (1987), at page 2 by john Smith. It is also `TIB`(tiable in the bight). Dan Lehman appears to have discovered this variation independently."

I have the distinct impression, that the resulting knot structure, is the reverse  of Scott's locked bowline, however, that leads me to believe that we are dealing with another EEL (either end loadable) Scott's knot.

Many thanks to Xarax for triggering this great knotting project!!!
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