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Kost_Greg:
I wasn't able to locate an Abok number for this structure, though it looks simple in its construction.

Besides a sharp turn at its right link, the two links are neatly interweaved, there are no overhands, plus it appears that it can handle multidirectional loading ( bi-axial, or tri-axial), with no observable jamming effects.

Maybe it resides somewhere in the forum archives?

It appears to me that Siriuso's Mocha crossing knot based, end of line, eyeknot, finds the way to Tibness, with an extra tuck, although here is depicted and tied in the middle of the rope.

Link:  https://igkt.net/sm/index.php?topic=6320.0

I believe, i owe a TIB method of tying ...............

siriuso:
Hi tsik_lestat

I tied it in this way.

yChan

Kost_Greg:
Very nice Ychan, thanks a lot for your offering!

That's what i call a quick neat and tidy, TIB tying method! Though, i would draw attention at the last tucking, illustrated in your third image, as you have to be careful in order to achieve the desirable final dressing state, but your proper hand placement, subserves tying errors circumvention.

Although your images speak on their own, i believe i have to appose my own TIB method of tying, in a descriptive and illustrative way.

1. Form a crossing knot with a slightly twisted collar, as shown in first photo. The bight component of the crossing knot, will be the final eye, so it might be good in this phase, to adjust its size.

2. Form an S loop on the left link, that is, the one which is a direct continuation of crossing knot's bight component, and place it over the twisted crossing knot collar, overlaping it, as shown in second photo.

3. Pass the bight through this configuration, in the following order ~ over, under, under, over ~, as shown in third photo.

4. Dress and cinch the knot.

agent_smith:
These type of knot structures are interesting.
There is a simple elegance to the original offering from tsik_lestat in his other thread topic.
I think the toggle mechanism is interesting and opens new lines of experimentation and discovery.

Its hard to beat the original #1053 Butterfly for simplicity and effectiveness.
But, if simplicity can be retained (to an extent) - there is merit.
There is room in my Butterfly paper to include a toggled 'TLE' knot :)

Kost_Greg:

--- Quote from: agent_smith on June 03, 2020, 11:19:26 PM ---Its hard to beat the original #1053 Butterfly for simplicity and effectiveness.
But, if simplicity can be retained (to an extent) - there is merit.

--- End quote ---

That's true, it's even hard to beat EHL, even though they share the same left link (with EHL 2 midline, not the one you are illustrating).

Generally, in my view, it might be hard to devise a midline eye knot, under the strict frame of characteristics that you had  correctly advanced for the midline concept. It rules out many prospective TIB knot structures.

Link :https://igkt.net/sm/index.php?topic=6382.msg42997#msg42997


--- Quote from: agent_smith on June 03, 2020, 11:19:26 PM ---I think the toggle mechanism is interesting and opens new lines of experimentation and discovery

--- End quote ---

These "toggled tri-axially loadable midline eye knots" (love the term :)), might be one of the new lines of exploration as you correctly point out, adding stability, security and jam resistance in the equation.

Speaking of toggle mechanisms, here is Xarax's variation, which somehow, smooths out right link's sharpness of the previous knot, by transposing its two lines in the core nub, as shown in the next two images.

To be continued with a TIB tying method.................

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