Author Topic: Mid-line TIB Tryout  (Read 8814 times)

enhaut

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Re: Mid-line TIB Tryout
« Reply #15 on: January 02, 2021, 06:24:14 PM »
Hello tsik_lestat and alanleeknots
Thanks for your interesting review;
" I'm not sure how the more complex link (myrtle, wheel turn), affects the overall jamming immunity, and i'm interested in finding out!"
Testers out there please give us a hand!
I tried a reversed sequence to see how Alan Lee would perhaps tie his knot with his twist method.
The result is below, hope I did not make any bloopers.
and;
Happy new year!

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S?quence 1-2-3
S?quence 4-5-6
Alan Lee's inline bowline-web

alanleeknots

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Re: Mid-line TIB Tryout
« Reply #16 on: January 03, 2021, 11:11:21 PM »
   
 Hello    enhaut and tsik_lestat,  Here is the video, hope you like it.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hf2iFit3iVI&t=93s
             tsik is you knot don't give away.  謝謝 alanleeknots.

enhaut

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Re: Mid-line TIB Tryout
« Reply #17 on: January 04, 2021, 12:10:34 AM »
@ Alanleeknots,
Of course I like it !
I would not write a dissertation on the merit of one versus the other but the slight difference is intriguing in terms of jamming threshold. We need testing over and over.
Thanks Mr. Lee

Kost_Greg

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Re: Mid-line TIB Tryout
« Reply #18 on: January 04, 2021, 04:55:16 PM »
Enhaut, after seeing your marvelous tying step illustration, i realised that it was exactly how i had tied in the bight, when i reverse-engineered the structure in the first place.

Of course, Alan Lee's double twist method is awesome too, plus it resembles somehow, with one of the butterfly tying methods.

Rearranging the eye legs (to follow 1051 style), and presenting a slightly different loading profile of your knots, does not make me an inventor, more like a user of your innovative ideas.

The inline profiles, appear to be quite compact in this form, however, the end termination profiles, technically, have been banished from the bowline zone, by pushing the third rope diameter out of the nipping loop.

Nonetheless, i see that there is plenty of versatility, as one may develop, several end of line configurations, (including the Eskimos), by using the complex link, as an SP, or a WE, or even an eye leg continuation component, depending on the application. That's what i like about TIB knots  :).

Now, let's try a different technique, by implementing the rule " first collar then turn", the exact opposite of the previous approach, which was " first myrtle turn then collar", in order to keep the (end of line) knots, in the bowline zone.

Pretty stable resulting knot, with no overhands and two lines of defence against slippage as previously, but that doesn't ensure jamming immunity right up to its MBS yield point.
Going knots

enhaut

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Re: Mid-line TIB Tryout
« Reply #19 on: January 04, 2021, 08:53:37 PM »
@tsik_lestat
In the spirit of knowledge advancement that I see you are working for  indeed you are more than welcome to rearrange the knots, I present on this forum.
There is no occurrence when your thoughtful fiddling gave way to lesser results.
It is an honour really when you take the time to adjust one of my offerings.
In fact, I don?t have to give permission to anyone, it is just natural to thriving for the best output possible.
Imagine Ashley's ghost haunting our dreams because we took liberties with his #1010.
Now I have to study your last post.

jr.

Image = caption from Ashley's Book who explains that he had to choose between photos or drawings.
« Last Edit: January 05, 2021, 07:52:36 PM by enhaut »

 

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