In dire need of a Knot

[NickieSanx]

Hi, i was wondering if someone would know how to tie this chair. I have been looking in the internet for a knot so the back of my chair does not separate anymore.

I have watched many videos and found out about many useful knots. The real problem is that i dont have a "suitable" cord for this task. I put a picture of what i have. Hope someone thinks of a solution. It is not an option Throwing the chair away and buying another one haha.







Thnks in advance for everyone reading.

EDIT:

Forgot to tell you that a few minutes ago i made an adjustable knot but it was a bit difficult to adjust because the cord was not helping much. It adjusted very well. Could not release it though not tighten it.

[SS369]

Good day NickieSanx and welcome.

I know you don?t want to read this, but, throw the chair away. It is an accident waiting to hurt someone. That makes it a real option.
The cord you show doesn?t seem to be long enough nor strong enough anyway.
Maybe find someone to do a real repair, otherwise remove the back and use it as a stool.

SS

[PatDucey]

I think SS369 is correct, the chair needs major work, and a knot might not be the best repair.  The broken spindle looks like a structural piece, if it can be replaced, the chair might be able to be re glued.  A knot would work as a clamp to hold the chair while the glue sets, but not as a repair for a missing structural support.  Sorry.

Pat

[NickieSanx]

Thank you very much for your inputs and caring. Although i thought i entered a knot forum instead of a precautionary one. My bad. Seems ill have to find a more objective knot forum where knot questions are answered.

[KC]

You would trying to replace/align to spec, cleaning glue pockets and posts first.  Glue up.
Then triple tighten linearly parallel to targets, lock down, then twist tighter with side lever and lock down as far as mechanical pressure.
Would need something stronger to do that with than twine shown i'd think.
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But seems building on sand, would think a wood forum(and/or local expert) that specializes in builds, strengths, experiences etc. of working with the material would be where to ask to 2nd guess what has been said, not knot forum.  They might have other way to pressurize to form, to the wood arts specialty, safety pointers, stories etc.. 
Peace.

[PatDucey]

Hi NickieSanx,  I'm sorry I sounded so precautionary.  You could use a truckers hitch or something similar to hold the wood together.  Basically you tie an eye using a bowline or similar on one end of your line.  Pass the line in a loop around the parts you want to secure, then pass the working end of the line through the eye, and use the eye like a pulley to tighten the loop.  Then secure the working end with half hitches.

The line in your photo doesn't look long enough to form the loop around the parts, and it might not have the durability to survive long term use.  If you purchase line for this project I would suggest some line that has minimal stretch.  Perhaps Paracord or a similar synthetic material would offer better structural integrity.

As for the broken spindle, if you can't repair that, perhaps a broomstick could be cut to length, and whittled down at the ends to fit the holes.

Pat

[SS369]

Hello NickieSanx.

I am not sorry for the precautionary information that I wrote.
The qualifiers you gave, such as, ?Not having ?Suitable? cord and not throwing away the chair, left little to advise you safely with.
You have since found out that the cord you have shown to have was being a ?bit difficult?.
Besides it being of a type that has very little strength, it is of a limited or insufficient length. Knots do weaken all cords and ropes.
If it were to fail and in my opinion, when I wrote what I did, and I do feel the same now, that spindle or the other dowels have the potential to hurt someone seriously. Besides the possible fall.
You came to the right place about knot tying, but,  put dangerous qualifiers forth and then disparaged the thoughtful opinions.
Obtain some viable materials to work with as Pat has suggested and you will get knot tying advice.

SS

[NickieSanx]

Thank you very much all of you for being objective.

Had this chair for 20 years now and it has been like this for 5 now. Ive been using "knots" so to speak, if what i used can be called knots, since then.

I wont change the chair for 2 reasons.
1 - It cant be repaired. The only way to repair it would be to CUT it in small pieces and make new "replacements".
2 - It has sentimental value, so i wont buy a new one.

The only way i can use it is with knots, which ive been trying to use for a very very very very long time. Besides the left side of the back of the chair is godlike glued and has some metal pins going through when i first found it and assembled it. Should have put metal pins on the right side but i didnt have more left.

Fortunately a friend came by and laugh the hell out when she saw the contraption i was sitting on. After a long while she told me that there are REAL knots which i could use. Reason why im here.

The "cord" in the photo seems short but actually its 4-5 meters long. I also have a bag full of it. I could gather like 20 meters and make it thicker if i need to. Seems i should have stated this before. My bad.

Im sorry if i didnt explained it all from the beginning but i thought it wasnt necessary. Ill use the techniques suggested above. Ty.

[Dan_Lehman]

1 - It cant be repaired.
The only way to repair it would be to CUT it in small pieces and make new "replacements".

Oh, this is too pessimistic :: it should be quite possible
for a wood turner to simulate the missing part of the
broken side pillar to be fit up into the chair back-top
and then, with matching angle-cut in the new & old
pieces, to bond the old w/new!

2 - It has sentimental value, so i wont buy a new one.

Good for you!  (Too much is thrown out in USA --WAY too much.)

It might seem that somehow a good deal of supportive pillar
is missing on this broken flank, but I believe that as far at
most forces are concerned, this wood here served more as
a "tension member", not compression.

It is likely --given the cordage you are showing,
which has some visual blend w/the wood--
that you don't need any special >>knot<<,
but just need to press the back into the state
you want to hold it (the getting-other-pieces-IN)
and then make several lashing wraps from under
the seat around the near chair leg and up --not
quite the same angle as had come from the
broken piece, but close enough?!
And then it's a simple matter to tie off the end(s).

(One might try putting in more tension by then
"frapping" --in a sense-- these lashings by pulling
them w/separate cordage towards the base of
the broken piece; but one cannot have much
lifting force on that.)

--dl*
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