what system to use a single line to hang a bunch of bananas from an I-beam ...

[alana]

... and still be able to take the line down when i've finished with it?

 i want to throw a line (4mm poly cord cover) over an I-beam,
and secure it,
and then hang bananas or something off it,
while being able to then bring the line down again,
without having to climb up and untie.

my brane is just not up to it. thanks !

[alana]

other domestic tying success includes holding screen door handle open, to reduce clatter in this instance. it is still partially lockable when needed to be.
i used a figure 8 loop!

and further down the door, a loop to grab to be able to open the door, with ease.
when hands are full.
it's 5mm leech cord i think, which is rigid, so it holds itself in shape and also propped up by a ... is that a Matthew walker knot?


these knots are greatly conveniencing me

[alana]

this is all i've got,
wondering if there are more elegant solutions

[Dan_Lehman]

And if the eye knot disappears,
and the line ending up there comes down
to join in the bananas, will that work
--it won't be gripping but only going over
the beam, but bananas don't move so quickly.
Then, again, if it can be tossed over once,
one good turn deserves another, and then one
gets a round-turn grip, which should still yield
to sound of one end pulling, later.

(-;

[alana]

cool, Dan, thanks,
i'll have to give this round-turn a go!,
and then after the bananas are gone, i just... throw that end in the same direction to untie ? ... i'll work it out, it sounds like it could become comical, caused by cord operator of course. this monkey thinks it'll work!

[alana]

maybe throw the cord round the beam a total of 3 times,
then shake (wave) the standing end over the turns. hmm
it worked in theory around my thumb.
comical episode about to start

a few hours later ...
ah never mind i'll tie a long loop, just like everyone else 😊

[Dan_Lehman]

and then after the bananas are gone,
i just... throw that end in the same direction to untie ?

You'd be holding the two ends and so I figure
can pull (pushing would be comical) the cord down,
maybe with a light toss of the following end so to
lessen round-turn friction at the start.
(A broom, e.g., might find purpose, too!)


--dl*
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[alana]

i'm lazy, but curious at the same time,
and also a bad shot for throwing line over a beam...
will report on how it goes
although i think i know where it's heading

[alana]

You'd be holding the two ends and so I figure
can pull (pushing would be comical) the cord down,
maybe with a light toss of the following end so to
lessen round-turn friction at the start.

😊 thanks and i had a laff

[KC]

that is Running Bowline w/remote release via tail to me, and again favor the DBY.
>>could use beam as a redirect by tying off control leg (lesser tension than load leg) reachable anchor (potential of double loading redirect)
>>or connect back to itself if don't need 'nannas out of reach.
.
The HH prefix to perhaps Running Bowline/other final/not as force 'translucent' as HH
HH gives straighter hang; pulls more aligned on  load than from side of load on a vertical grab of gravity as load direction.

[alana]

that is Running Bowline w/remote release via tail to me, and again favor the DBY.
>>could use beam as a redirect by tying off control leg (lesser tension than load leg) reachable anchor (potential of double loading redirect)
>>or connect back to itself if don't need 'nannas out of reach.
.
The HH prefix to perhaps Running Bowline/other final/not as force 'translucent' as HH
HH gives straighter hang; pulls more aligned on  load than from side of load on a vertical grab of gravity as load direction.

this helped me a LOT for another suspension project,
even though i'm not really sure what you said! 😊
thanks KC!
it'll also help with the bunch of bananas

[alana]

(and it took 12 throws to get over the beam 👍)