Could people familiar with whipping ends of rope advise if this is a good idea?
I figured that the West Country whipping would be the most permanent and practical
to prevent rope ends frying (or kermantle core de-sheathing) or perhaps as a solid handle wrapper?
Fried kernmantle seldom being wanted, ... . (-;
What is the basis for your assertion re WCWhipping?!
I'm curious as to what you see in that to advance it
vs. other whippings.
What's the purpose of whipping, and what materials
are you (likely to be) working with, and to what use
goes the whipped material (possibly tape!) ?! These
are considerations of relevance.
I've been pretty happy whipping with extended
multiple strangle knots (i.e., extra buried twist
of ends beneath 4-8 overwraps), which IMO look
much tighter/surer than anything I've seen of
book methods --not that I think the carefully
SEWN-through ones are coming off, but ... .
I often try other things, as well, and esp. if using
parts of bailing twine's fibrillated polypropylene (PP).
But I am dealing with my "play ropes", sizes ranging
usually from 4..15mm; and I whip the soft flexible
solid pull-tape (PES) ends, though have in a few
cases tried sewing in a securing so as to preserve
the flat cross section (this hasn't gone as well as
I've wanted).
Recently I came to wonder about how my whippings
would hold up in outdoor, In The Wild usage --i.p.,
where material was wet, dry, wet :: this is something
warned about by some books.
You nicely found my long response way back, and that
holds.
I have thought to do WCW using constrictor-knottings
vice simple OH ones :: eh, yeah, it can be done, but
it tends to look/feel bulky. ANDDDD, note that although
in this there is continual suck secure knotting (the OH
crossing compressed under the overwrap),
IF one part is cut, it ALL goes away --unlike, say, were
one to put on actual series of strangles, each one hauled
hard at the one end if the other is left connected to prior
knot:: cut any one, the others remain. (Some books have
recommended using two whippings, close but separate!?)
((I'm now questioning my "it all goes away", but I think
at least one will see that the integrity of the whole is
much weakened.))
Whipping that soft solid pull-tape, I have often started
by folding it
(either in 3rds or half --the former thinking
of symmetry/balance; the latter realizing that the former
is a bit of a PITA and not really all so great :-),
and then --using forceps-- inserting my whipping material
though the folded tape; this I think will well prevent the
whipping from being pulled off (which can happen).
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HERE'S A BRIGHT IDEA, which I've never seen expressly
advanced, though Hensel&Gretel's tome can be seen to
offer it, if obliquely ::
put on a main whipping (e.g., an 8-turn strangle),
enough IN from the end so that one can afterwards
pull some few fibres from the end back over the
1st-pass whipping AND THEN bind this material
with "2nd-pass" whipping *behind*/inwards from end
the 1st. .:. One has a main whipping now partially
(a) protected by this rope material, and
(b) secured against being pulled off the end
--as the whipped-over-it fibres would have to somehow
fail (being pulled out from the whipping over them
(?!! no way).
Of course, one can move the whipping more inwards
from the end so to have generous such over-covering
fibres drawn, and then trim the end closer to the
finished whipping if desired.
#1253 has impressed me as a slightly better form
than the
Dbl.C usually given (#1252), but it's still just
that, AND if one only has some few wraps then those
more "stick out" for abrasion abuse. There are ways
of extending the
clove hitch for whipping; the
cloveis more *pure* in delivering tension into the structure
than the
constrictor, as ends go straight in, not making
the C.'s simple knotting.
Also, it only recently occurred to me that the simple
traditional whipping of wrapping over a buried U-fold
and tucking the working end through that bit of U-fold
left and then pulling the end under the wraps ... ,
has the advantage of locking in a HARD U-TURN,
thereby being very secure (possibly, stangles &
constrictors can gradually loosen :: the bound
ends can be slooowwwly pulled out;
but one can't make a U-turn in such pressure!).
BUT, this trad. whipping needs a lot of overwraps
as each buried end runs under half of them.
Oh, in some cases, I've finished by tying off the
ends with an OH stopper --the one stopper able
to be set pretty snug against something (alas,
though, I've found it often challenging to do this
even so!).
moral :: try different methods & materials, Have Fun !!
(-;
