Lee's Super 8 Loop & other nipping structure

[alanleeknots]

         Hi All,
                 WOW !!!  Eventually, I found a great figure eight knot loop. Very happy Awesome !
                  Hope you like my work like I do. alan lee.
 



 

[alanleeknots]

Hi All, I have two loops here, one is Lee's Super 8 Loop (Reversed version)
         The next one I don't know what to call it yet. Three rope diameter in the nipping loop, and so do
         second collar, another good thing is the second collar (round turn cross over point) is nipped
         by the main nipping loop.
         It is a compact knot. have one quick test I am safe to said it is jam resistant. and easy to untie.
         This is not a sloppy loop, deep in my heart I have to say this is the best out the for now. Of Couse I am not
         a rock climber, just left it to you guys. Thanks alanlee.

[alanleeknots]

           Hi All, there are many more variations of this figure 8 loop, I like this simplest 8 loop

            Edit May/28/2024.   
                                        I have more simplest 8 loops here. Just like to add it on the same page,
                                        So it is easier to compare the difference between them. Thanks

[alana]

i'm a fan of 'simpler',
but the super 8 is pretty
(also important ☺) 

[alanleeknots]

   alana thanks for your reply, I am glad you like it.

[alanleeknots]

     Hi All,
            I have a few more loops here. First image A is better than B. second image C is better than
            D. have a few quick tests on A and C loops. I like both of them, they look very good to me.
            I hope one of these days I have the free time to finish testing all the loops that I have posted
            recently. Thanks alanlee.

             

[alanleeknots]

   Hi All,
           I have two more loops here that I like. I guess I need some serious test on all of these knots.
           Will get it done one of these days. alanlee.

           Dec 10, 2023. Add another loop here that relates to the loop above,
                                making it easy to show their differences.

[alanleeknots]

 Hi All, I have another loop here that I like very much.
          Well, again, it is a big project for me. I need to do a lot of quick test and get some rough idea
          how well all these knots perform first, and chose the best one, then I can do the proper test.
          I have so many knots here and get a little confusing here, will post more images for those who
          relate and also some look alike knots. 
          I have a huge project here. I am sure I have some great knots here. I just need time to finish
          this project.  alanlee.

          Edit May 28, 2024
                                    I have two loops, I would like to add them here. So far, I haven't seen any figure 8 loops that have a high jam threshold. I am happy most of my 8 loops here turn out very nice. Now I am starting to understand a little more how the figure 8 structure functions. More and more, 8 loops appear, getting little too many now. I have to abandon some of them that are inferior to their classmates. Thanks

          May30,2024.  Pasted a loose knot to no name 6, so it is easy to view the loops. Thanks.

[alanleeknots]

 
                 Happy New Year 2024 and world peace.
                 Here is another Figure 8 with an overhand knot lock loop that I like.
                 Thanks.

                 May 28, 2024 Add another loop that belongs here. Thanks.

[alanleeknots]

Hi all, I have a few nice looking overhand knot loops here. We need to dress the nub tie,
          In order to handle heavy weights.

        Apr/5/24, Two more Double Overhand knot Loops here that I like, and I think it is nice to post them here.
                       It is easy to compare. Thanks.
       
        May30,2024. Add two more loops that belong to here.
        Crossing knot, Overhand knot,8 like knot, Figure 8 knot, these are very interesting knots. We can use
        the same identical idea applied to most of these structures.
        I have many more loop variations in my tool box, need time to take some good pictures and post it.
                        Thanks.


       

[alanleeknots]

Here are a few figure 8 like loops, same thing we need to have a good tie on the nub to improve  the jam threshold.
All the knots that I have posted today only have some quick tests on softer rope.
I have free time will test it with stiffer rope. thanks.

      May30,2024 Add more loops here.

[alanleeknots]

       
   Hi all, I have more loops here. Most of them can handle heavy weight, some of them are  Inferior to their
            classmates. None of these loops are good for any important or critical use. I love all the new loops
            I have created recently. I learned a lot from all these loops and got to know how to deal with them.

[alanleeknots]

      Hi all, I have two loops here. Good-looking Lee's Figure 8 loop, just like making a better detail picture,
                 bring it here, also is a new loop that belongs here. For more details please see this link here,
                  https://forum.igkt.net/index.php?topic=7496.30
               The unnamed loop, with soft rope it can handle heavy weight very well, will not slip and  easy to untie
                 after heavy loading. It doesn't make sense to have such a loop, but it does exist.
                  I don't feel good doing any important work with it. Please tell me what you think about this loop.
                   Thanks.

       Jun 25. 2024 Add another loop "unnamed loop 2" here, and it looks good, but because it has only one rope
         tucked through the standing part, and, with the compression force from the nipping loop will make the
          main collar "collar that near the standing part" shorter, it will jam on heavy weight.
       Jun/26. 2024 Add two loops again. Both loops are good enough for common use.
         My scissor jack broke. Without it, it is hard for me just pumping the hydraulic jack.
            Will fit it as soon as possible.

[agent_smith]

Hi Alan,

I've added a couple of images which are intended to contribute ideas for further development.
This is a concept that I had been working on for some time... the idea is to start with a 'bend', and then try to derive its corresponding eye knots.
This is what I've done with one of your knots.
I started with a 'parent' bend, and then derived one of its corresponding eye knots.

I believe that this approach will enable you to make further discoveries.
You are essentially using a Figure 8 knot (#520) as a core element, then integrating a loop into the structure of that figure 8.
You have also tried integrating a crossing hitch - which is interesting.

Note: You could also do this with a Figure 9 knot (#521) as a base, and then integrate a loop into that structure.
You could also use #582 as a base (refer image below).

[alanleeknots]

   
  Hi Mark, thank you very much for the derived eye knot. and the Bend idea. Great idea. I will look at it later.
               For now, I still have little more to do with (Fig. 8, 8 like,Overhad knot, Crossing knot & Marlin spike)'
                 base knot.
               Anyway I have few End bound eye loops you may be interested in seeing.
                First image, 3 collars is too much length of rope just can  can't dress tie by hand.  Is a sloppy loop.
                Second image quick test to 500 kg easy to untie, with 7/16" Bluewater safe line. Compackness ok
               Third image the tail, have to place it the way it is, and let the nipping loop tighten the tail loop
               (rotating effect)  quick test to 500 kg easy to untie, with 7/16" Bluewate safe line. Compackness ok
                   Thanks.