Lee's Super 8 Loop & other nipping structure

[Dan_Lehman]

A bend has 2 standing parts and 2 working ends. You just

... load the Tails.
  For an EyeKnot, I define "reverse" to swap the loadings of
each of the 2 pieces in the 2-Tangle, after cutting apart the loop
  (well, my *Tangle* never connected it)
     and joining the old S.Part & Tail),
and thus the 1-2 piece will shift from 100%-&-50% to 50%-&-100%,
and the A-B piece likewise goes from 50%(RELeg) -&- 0%.
(Interestingly, the Reverse of the Fig.8 EK changes the
Interior/Exterior loading --S.Part & Tail being opposite in this.)
For the e2e Joint, "reverse" = "Tail-loaded",
but not for Eye Knots.


--dl*
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[agent_smith]

We need to be careful not to hijack or de-rail Alan Lee's topic thread.

Dan, I have started a new topic thread titled; "Transposition"

[Kost_Greg]

With absolutely, no intention of overshadowing the other Alan Lee's creations, i believe, the super bend of reply#59, for which Siriuso gets full credit so far, as the first inventor, shouldn't get lost in translation.

More specifically, if there was a subfolder in new knots investigation field, which would host the best knots with high acceptability by the majority of the knotting community, that were presented strictly in this platform, this so called Teepee joint, would have had more than just a good chance of being included in such a folder.

Of course, "such a knot" would have to be subjected to a series of tests concerning strength, stability, jam resistance, drop tests and so on, conducted by most of the interested knotters and would had to pass successfully and survive through this test procedure.

I' m not refering to a folder with a plethora of knots, but only with the best of the best, maybe even less than ten.

Examples of potential qualifiers: Ampersand bowline, Lee's link bowline, Z8, Teeppee ..... and so on.

This would also give more motivation to all creators  .

[alanleeknots]

   
      Hi,
          Thanks for all the replies and help. Another bend here. Never do any tests, she'll be fine.
           It looks good to me. Thanks alanleeknots.

[siriuso]

Hi Alan

Re #39

I tried to work on your bends Bowline #1010 Bend and Bowline #1034 Half Bend. I found that the start is not loops form of Bowline #1010 for the Bowline #1010 Bend, it is a Grief Knot. Will you please check on these two Bends.

yChan

[Dan_Lehman]

full credit so far, as the first inventor,

How much to value "first"?! --which attribute can be hard to determine.
(One might see more insight-to-be-valued by looking
 at the *reach* a discoverer made to find the knot.)

(-;

[agent_smith]

Quote from: Kost_Greg on September 29, 2024, 11:53:09 AM

full credit so far, as the first inventor,

per Dan Lehman:

How much to value "first"?! --which attribute can be hard to determine.
(One might see more insight-to-be-valued by looking
 at the *reach* a discoverer made to find the knot.)

This topic category is titled "New Knot Investigations".
Presumably, the intent of this section of the IGKT forum is for making
new claims of discovery.
I would posit that it is becoming more common for people to skip introductory
words such as: "I am making a claim of originality".
It is becoming less clear as to what is actually being claimed.

I again assert that this topic category appears to be set aside and reserved
for making claims of originality/discovery.
On that basis, one can assume that all posts herein are made on the
basis of making a claim of originality/discovery.

If not, then don't post here!

I would also comment that Dan Lehman appears to be opposed to
the idea of a person making a claim of originality.
If this is true, then one might reach the conclusion that he is also
opposed to having such a topic category in this IGKT forum.

[alanleeknots]

   
         Hi All,
                  Renamed "Lee's Unconventional Bend V1 loose". to "Lee's Bend #1A"
                    And add two bends, Lee's Bend #1B, 1C, that belong here. Thanks

     

[alanleeknots]

   
                      More variation of Lee's Bends.  Thanks. alanleeknots

[alanleeknots]

    Hi all, two more bends here that I like very much, And they are more superior to their classmates.
             Thanks alanleeknots.

[Andreas]

Good pictures!

[alanleeknots]

 Hi Andreas, thanks for your reply. For me, it is not just some good pictures, I am just joking !!!.
                    Here is one more good-looking picture.

[alanleeknots]

Reply #65 on: September 24, 2024, 02:10:04 PM ?
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Hi Alan
Re Rely #39.
I have working on your Bowline Bend #1034 half, and found some question. Is the "A" rope goes under "B" rope? I have posted my findings here. It is always better to present new knots with loosen knot pictures or tying method.
yChan

 Hi yChan, Thanks for your concern, I have a new "Zeppeline Bowline Bend" here. It is superior then the old one, so just discard the old Bowline Bend. It is all good. Thanks.

[siriuso]

Hi Alan

I have been working on your bends, and need your clarification as follows :-

Re : #82, 83 and 84.
I have found : 1) Lee's Bend #2A is the mirror image of Lee's Bend #1A
                     2) Lee's Bend #2B is the mirror image of Lee's Bend #1B
                     3) Lee's Bend #2C is the mirror image of Lee's Bend #1C
                     4) Lee's Bend #2Z is the mirror image of Lee's Bend #1Z

Should you rename them, there are 4 bends, not 8 bends.

Happy Knotting
yChan

[siriuso]

Hi Alan

Would you please post the tying methods by steps of each bend, so that I can have yours to be included in my folders. It is most beneficial to everyone. Thanks.

yChan